Tuesday, December 28, 2021

Trade Deadline Comes Early

 Tigers Make 2 Big Trade

First off I haven't followed the whl very much the last 2 season. I used to feel a ton more knowledgeable on happenings, player talent levels etc, but you can quickly loose key insights into the league and players if you don't pay attention.  As such my comments are basically trash. 

Lukas Svejkovsky

Their biggest trade piece has left the table. Lukas Svejkovsky has been traded to Seattle in return for a 2022 first round pick, conditional 2nd round pick in 2023, and conditional 3rd round pick in 2025.

Svejkovsky was the only point per game player in the lineup. It also left the Tigers temporarily down an Overager. 

The Tigers ended up filling that slot by signing a player that was let go earlier in the season to OA numbers.  Carter Chorney.  He had .5ppg as a 19 year old in the WHL and this season was near a ppg player in the AJHL.

Chorney has played for rebuilding teams in Regina and Swift Current. He will be looked upon to provide some guidance and experience for this young squad.


2nd Big Deal
This was a 3 way deal involving 3 teams. I will just point out the returns for the Tigers and players sent away.

Leaving the Tigers:
Carlin Dezainde(17) - F
Cayden Glover (17)- F
2023 Second Round Pick (conditional)
Ryan Nolan(17) - F

I might be wrong on this, but as far as I'm aware a team can only trade 17 year olds if they request a trade as per the new rules in 2018. This meant all 3 players requested a trade. 

Coming to the Tigers

Pavel Bocharov(17)
Brendan Lee(19)
2025 5th Round Pick

The key piece to this deal is likely landing Bocharov. Also the Tigers are going into next season with just 2 overagers. Picking up a 19 complements the need to balance out the age groups and have 3 20's for next season.

Pavel Bocharov
Pavel Bocharov, a defenceman, played for the under 18's and was the captain of team USA.  He is in his 17 year old year and put up 7 points in 30 games for Saskatoon. As a 17 he must have asked for a trade.  He is listed as  "C" prospect for the upcoming NHL draft.

Brendan Lee
Is a 19 year old who's put up 11 points in 30 games for Saskatoon.


Thoughts
The Tigers gave up  youth that have been in and out of the lineup.  Bocharov is probably the key piece in this deal for the Tigers, but this deal to me feels like it was initiated by players requesting trades. 

Ryan Nolan was only dressed in 8 games
Cayden Glover was only dressed in 15 games
Carlin Dezainde was dressed in 21


I haven't watched a lot of Tiger games this year or last year, so my thoughts on talent are not accurate in the least.  The few games I saw,  Cayden Glover seemed like one of the better 17's on the Tigers team. I say that with hesitations because watching a player casually for a few games is a terrible way to judge a players talent.  Glover only has 15 of 27 games games this season so he was a player that was scratched on and off and so perhaps saskatoon saw a young player who wasn't being utilized as a big return for them.

In Total

Their lineup changes quite drastically with the addition of 2 older players, and the loss of scoring leader as well as 3 younger players. 

Their is still 41 games left in the season. The WHL playoff format has changed back to a conference formatt. The conference is very top Heavy which means the majority of teams are around the .500 mark. The Tigers only have 14 points in 27 games, and are 13 points back of a playoff spot. 

These big changes as well as lots of time remaining in the season means their is still lots of time for them to catch up. 


Friday, December 3, 2021

Tigers Losing Streak

Normal Expectations

 Being completely honest I don't think this losing streak is anything out of the ordinary. You have a team that pretty much lost all their scoring power over the past 2 seasons. 

The Covid Cancelled Season

The covid year really put a dent on the Tigers talent as they had numerous overagers expiring and they couldn't get any value from them. This is an area Willie Desjardins is really great at. Recouping those late round draft picks and extracting value.

 The covid year also cut short a team that had merit to go on a whl finals run. It was the first time in a long time I had felt that way. Especially as they had laid a beating down on Edmonton late in the season who were the Favorites.

The Covid Shortened Season Last Year

Last season they still had a pretty strong team, but it didn't matter. The season was super short, and their was no playoffs. The Tigers had a split roster of very mature players and a very youthful contingent backing them up.  Their were very few trades last season so it was basically a poor year to have an older core. 

One of the Few teams who suffered Worse than the Tigers.

Edmonton is also a team that has suffered a lot because of Covid. They had been basement dwellers and had been recovering with 4 of 5 seasons of missing the playoffs.   The past 3 seasons and this season was their prime. They lost out to a Dominant PA team in their first Up season. Then Covid basically cancelled their last 2 seasons.  This could be their last shot before their "up" cycle runs out of juice for championship contenders...*This part was written before their last big trade**

If we compare their current roster to the Tigers roster;  12 of 15 Edmonton forwards are 18 or older. Half of them are 19 or older. When you have a core of 19's  playing against a core of 17's, it's too much of a gap.

Medicine Hat - Young Team

8 of their 14 forwards are 17 or younger. Three of their 18 yr olds had a combined 15 points in the WHL prior to the season starting. They have one 19yr old forward. They have 2 OA's who have scored half their goals and 1 of them is out week to week with an injury and the other is not playing against Winnipeg Ice tonight.

  It's simple math why they are on the losing streak. By their numbers they should be last or near the bottom of the league.  In a league where experienced mature players dominate, it's simply not their turn.  A successful season is making the playoffs. The thing about Willie Desjardins teams is that they are always 100% better going into the playoffs than they are during the season, but they literally have a roster than is a non playoff contention type roster.  I'll talk more about this down below...


Going Forward

Come Trade Deadline Time it's possible we see some movement. Lukas Svejkovsky could be an attractive Overager should a team need some veteran scoring. He would demand a 1st rounder Plus extra's.  If their is demand for Overage scoring we possibly might see Hopwo generate some interest. I think he may be less likely to go but it's a possibility. 

Season Progress

Typical progress of an above average core player is often something akin to  0.5-0.2ppg as a 16 year old. 0.2-.4ppg as a 17 year old.   0.4-0.65 as an 18 year old.    .7-1ppg as a 19.  1ppg+ as a 20.

As the Tiger forward core is 16 and 17 their numbers are in line with that. It also means their scoring isn't as high as it's been the past few years.

Positive Progress

Tyler MaKenzie has quintupled his point production going from 2 points in 19 games to 10 points in 17 games as a 17 year old. 

Ashton Ferster(18) has roughly a .5ppg pace after going pointless in 10 games last season.

Oasiz Wiesblatt(17) is up .15ppg to a .37ppg pace as a 17 year old. 

Teague Patton(18) has doubled his goal totals from last season. (Current .26ppg pace)

Cayden Glover(17) has tripled last seasons 1 point in 15 games to 3 points in 10 games. (.3ppg)

Tigers have a 16 year old defenseman who's played 30 whl games already. His plus minus of +1 this season is very solid when you factor in the Tigers as a whole are -26 at the time of writing this.

Their Import defenceman Bogdan Hodass and Gleb Ivanov have some skill and they could both be around next season. 

Their are some players who have had their production drop off including Dru Krebs and Oren Shtrom, but they also do not have the supporting cast they were playing with the previous season.Shtrom has had some minor Injury issues as well as he has only appeared in 16 of 21 games. Krebs in the few games I watched had a weird game where He was terrible for the first half, but played well the second half. To be honest though, the 18year old season is usually the toughest season for players. It's filled with ups and down so that is a bit normal.


My Armchair Thoughts

  I haven't watched the Tigers very much and when I turned on the webcast I was expecting a team that was losing battles and in general slower team speed, but that isn't what I saw against Winnipeg even though they were down big in the game. 

It's obvious their is some skill in the Tigers lineup. They win lots of small battles a LOT more than I expected facing the top team in the league. They were trying and skating hard.   They also make some nice outlet plays out of their zone. Speed or skill isn't their issue, experience is.

Their finish around the net seemed "panicked' or "youthfull" What I mean by that is it looked like they would run out of ideas at the net. Like they had to be perfect in order to score. Looking for a lot of cross icepasses with 3 defenders in the way. 

  Last minute shots that would miss the net or passes that went to nobody in prime scoring areas of the slot.  A sign of youth. A feeling they need to be perfect to score goals or rushed opportunities. 


I saw One Main Issue

Their biggest flaw is their defensive positioning in the offensive zone. What I mean by that is....When a defenceman would pinch, covering by a forward was an afterthought. Their was also quite a few instances where their forwards were on the wrong side of the puck.

The Tigers cycle in the offensive zone created a lot of pressure, but Eventually it would break down. Pretty routinely 2 forwards would be caught deep and flat footed. When Winnipeg won a battle it would be out from a scrum of 2 Tigers deep in the zone flat footed and it would result in Winnipeg coming out full speed with the control of the Neutral zone.  That puts a ton of pressure on the Tigers defenceman. 

I actually felt that the Tigers won more small battles, but with the winnipeg game  speed routinely caught the Tigers with their pants down after a simple outlet pass as described above.

I feel like if they can be on the right side of the puck more often in the offensive zone it will help them.  When they loose a battle it will be much harder for the opponent to skate out easily with speed. 
Still they are youthful and I don't expect much. Honestly I'm not expecting much from them. 

I also find it kinda funny about some fans who post things on facebook. This season was super obvious to me and really anyone who understand anything at all about how the WHL works.  I hope the players  concentrate on having fun and learning.  They arne't supposed to do well this season and making the playoffs will be considered a success.